Q: counterfeit goods. Opinions?

iowahawkeyes
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Lately I have seen tons of counterfeit goods all over. When I'm on the sidewalk, when I'm online, and absolutely everywhere. I know some items can get really expensive, and the replicas are very accurate, but would you buy replicas? I happen to own some fake ray bans that are extremely accurate and very good quality, and if I have the opportunity again I might buy another pair. Any of you guys own anything fake, and what do you think about fakes?
iowahawkeyes posted May 30, 2012
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krmills1
The bad thing about fakes is that the original creator is not getting the money or credit for them. When my wife and I went to NY, my wife bought a fake Rolex watch for $30 and it is still working and is exceptionally built, but it really isn't fair to the original manufacturer that they aren't getting there money.
krmills1 (rep: 14.2k) posted May 30, 2012
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encorez
authentic imitation rules.....lol
encorez (rep: 9.96k) posted May 30, 2012
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nimrodboy3
i don't really worry about the original creator not getting royalties..my deal is that by purchasing fakes, it lessens the value of the original items. if i owned a legit rolex..and all my friends owned fake ones..then i'd feel that over time..my rolex wouldn't hold such a high status anymore..

as a sidenote..i do not own a rolex..and i wouldn't want a fake one..for big items..i prefer legit stuff..but something small..meh.
nimrodboy3 (rep: 68k) posted May 30, 2012
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lilywow
I've owned both but always felt that the authentic items were timeless and original. When I was younger, owning an authentic item when replicas were around was such a waste of money. Be that as it may, in the end, it's the state of mind of the consumer that affects what we buy. It's the good feeling generated by the purchase whether authentic or replica.
lilywow (rep: 8.33k) posted May 30, 2012
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arsiel
@nimrodboy3, Really? I feel like because of fake Rolex watches, real ones tend to be "rarer" and consequently more expensive and/or hold a higher status. Some guy came into my parents' watch shop the other day while I was manning it and asked if the Rolex he had was real. He bought a bunch of watches from some guy for a little amount of money and wanted to know if he got lucky. I'm not the expert (my parents are) but once I held it, I knew immediately that it wasn't the real thing.

Anyway, I worked with a dropshipper and sold North Face Denalis for him. I didn't know if they were real or not, but considering the price he had me list them for, I had a hunch. I got one for myself since it was so cheap compared to MSRP. It's not the same quality but it does the trick and looks just as good. I'm pretty satisfied with it because of the price I paid. (Also, just FYI, I stopped working with him because I got confirmation they weren't real and worked towards the best solution with any buyer who wasn't satisfied.)

I think the whole point of replicas is to be able to sell it. It's terrible to know that people buy things mainly for the brand but it's true. Any competitor will have a tough time marketing and selling heir new brand if they're considered to be a no name. It's a hit or miss when it comes to quality though. The brand will catch my eye but I'll only buy it if it's still worth the price tag. The fakeness wouldn't phase me - it's all about what I'm actually paying for and that doesn't include the name.
arsiel (rep: 13k) posted May 30, 2012
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nimrodboy3
@arsiel: i can see your point..and i think at first..having replicas make the real deal just that more rare..i guess i just don't like people having to ask..i mean..if i buy a rolex and someone has to ask me if it's real..it's like.."DUDE!..WHAT THE HECK?!?!"..it's not like they awe at it right away..they have to make sure it's legit first..and that's the part that i feel negates the good feeling. i know girls who buy fake bags...good looking LV's and stuff..and some are totally happy with their replica..while some totally would rather have the real thing....meh..i guess it's just all relative. i just don't think i'd appreciate if someone feels the need to ask if whatever it is that i have is real or not.
nimrodboy3 (rep: 68k) posted May 30, 2012
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gangstabarbie
i don't do fakes- if i don't have the money to buy the real- i just won't buy- that's how i roll baby ;)
gangstabarbie (rep: 9.67k) posted May 30, 2012
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fluffy
The counterfeits I worry about are not clothing and accessories. Fake drugs frequently end up in your local pharmacy, even in the big name chains, because of the labyrinth of wholesalers that stand between the manufacturers and the pharmacy or hospital. I saw a TV news report that said up to 4% of the medicines on the shelves of your local pharmacy may be fakes, and the pharmacist has no way of knowing.

There are also lots of fake electronic components and equipment, usually knockoffs of expensive or popular items that may look like the real thing, but have no quality control and very poor reliability if they work at all. My employer was scammed with some fake HP networking equipment. Only when we called HP for support when it didn't work did we find out that we had purchased fakes.

If there is an expensive or popular item on the market, you can pretty much assume that someone is making a counterfeit of it.
fluffy (rep: 2.17k) posted May 30, 2012
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iowahawkeyes
I own real oakleys, and they are fantastic quality, but my best quality sungasses are my 20 dollar fake raybans off of dealextreme.com. I am not at all for fake medicine, eggs, and electronics, but when it comes to sunglasses I do recommend them. I did do some research, and I found that some of the fake Beats by Dre headphones actually have the same speakers in the ear, as in the same exact factory, just the casing wasn't made with the genuine ones. I am not for fakes, but I am also not for labels overpricing everything.
iowahawkeyes (rep: 4.25k) posted May 31, 2012
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bbattag
Alot of it depends on the type of item you are purchasing.

Clothing, for instance is easy to copy and often coming from the exact same factory or a factory nearby. For example, a designer contracts a factory to produce 1000 of shirt 1. They actually produce 2000 of shirt 1 and leak the rest onto the black market. Or another thing that happens is that an employee/manager of the factory gives the design and specs to a friend/family member and they produce it at factory 2, making much more money on the item than factory 1.

When it comes to technology, I would not deal with counterfeit goods. It's much more difficult to create a quality product that lasts just as long. There have been fakes found of Honda motorcycles and even $1.5 million dollar cranes! These products may look the same but do not last and are made with inferior supplies.

Additionally, as @fluffy said, counterfeit drugs are everywhere and a huge risk. The drug companies work hard to fight it, but they are such an easy thing to counterfeit with huge profits. All they have to do is make an identical pill and bottle, with different contents and the profit is huge.

I'd only purchase counterfeit clothing. Beyond that, I think you are risking quality/safety for a cost savings.
bbattag (rep: 6.76k) posted Jun 01, 2012
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